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Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
lele.. 09-15-2008, 9:12 PM | Post #2562391 |  8 Replies
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So maybe there is something good in all of this - your bond fund is bouncing back up because it looks like a rate cut is likely.
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Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
playbook 09-23-2008, 5:53 PM | Post #2565810
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Things have changed a lot in a week.  Down to 9.86 today.  ASABX doesn't seem to be alone though.  It hard for me to determine what causes this.

Playbook.

Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
lele.. 10-05-2008, 7:40 PM | Post #2571857
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playbook:

Things have changed a lot in a week.  Down to 9.86 today.  ASABX doesn't seem to be alone though.  It hard for me to determine what causes this.

Playbook.

What is causing this is a credit freeze, forced sales and massive redemptions.  There are lots of sellers and few buyers and so it is a buyer's market.

Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
lele.. 10-05-2008, 7:45 PM | Post #2571858
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playbook:

Things have changed a lot in a week.  Down to 9.86 today.  ASABX doesn't seem to be alone though.  It hard for me to determine what causes this.

Playbook.

What is causing this is a credit freeze, forced sales and massive redemptions.  There are lots of sellers and few buyers and so it is a buyer's market.

Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
playbook 10-07-2008, 11:04 AM | Post #2572876
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Hi Lele.  I thought you were gone after not seeing any activity from you for a while and your profile had been deactivated. 

My FA thinks it's the commercial paper mostly that is causing the losses, but I don't know if I accept that.  Assuming we get back to some normalcy in the credit markets would you expect the NAV to increase to prior levels?  When I bought into the fund 5 months ago it was $9.98.  The credit markets were basically normal at that time if there is such a thing.  There have been no actual Fed rate changes during that time, but the fund dropped .75% on an expectation of a 50bp increase in rates a couple of months ago.  Now that the expectation is for a 50bp decrease in the Fed rate soon, I would expect an increase in the price of .75%.  Therefore, logically I would expect the NAV to increase to around $10.05 in a stabilized environment plus the rate reduction.  Do you agree that would be logical?

Playbook

Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
Super_Snark 10-07-2008, 11:18 AM | Post #2572888
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What are you guys talking about? ASBAX is the ticker for RiverSource Small Cap Advantage B.
Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
playbook 10-07-2008, 11:38 AM | Post #2572901
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Typo-- should have been ASBAX in the subject line.
Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
lele.. 10-20-2008, 6:24 PM | Post #2580996
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playbook:

Hi Lele.  I thought you were gone after not seeing any activity from you for a while and your profile had been deactivated. 

Well, lili is gone but lele is back, lol!

playbook:

My FA thinks it's the commercial paper mostly that is causing the losses, but I don't know if I accept that.  Assuming we get back to some normalcy in the credit markets would you expect the NAV to increase to prior levels?  When I bought into the fund 5 months ago it was $9.98.  The credit markets were basically normal at that time if there is such a thing.  There have been no actual Fed rate changes during that time, but the fund dropped .75% on an expectation of a 50bp increase in rates a couple of months ago.  Now that the expectation is for a 50bp decrease in the Fed rate soon, I would expect an increase in the price of .75%.  Therefore, logically I would expect the NAV to increase to around $10.05 in a stabilized environment plus the rate reduction.  Do you agree that would be logical?

Playbook

I would think of it this way.  You initially had planned to invest in AIBAX (or whatever fund it was) and that fund is down considerably more than ASBAX so by waiting you are buying lower than you would have had you DCA'ed in earlier. 

Re: Playbook - ASABX up to 9.96
lele.. 10-20-2008, 6:29 PM | Post #2581001
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And the next time ASBAX ever gets close to 9.98 - GET OUT!
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